Oh, no, we were, oh no, when they thought Ling was pregnant, we had a panda watch, it was, we had volunteers who, you know, there were cameras set up, keepers. So we had 24-hour watch. And when the first baby panda was born, I don’t remember whether they did blood work to know that she was pregnant or what, but they just assumed, you always just assumed that she was pregnant if she’d bred. And Barbara Bingham was the keeper in the area at the time and she and I were looking at Ling and she just wasn’t acting right. And so I decided to stay and Barbara decided to stay and Devra said, “Oh no, you know, it’s not time yet. Don’t call unless something, you know, don’t call unless something important happens.” And I wasn’t, I was going in to sort of check on Ling on the inside and I heard this gasp from the watcher and Barbara in the control room and went back to see and she had a baby. Ling had a baby. And so I called Devra and just said, “She’s had a baby.” That was important enough to call (chuckles) and so she called Mitch and she called everybody and everybody descended on us that night.
