There was a time way back, again, this would’ve been in the 19, that would’ve been its second year that I was at the zoo. It was ’72 or so. Very, very few zoos had male elephants, nobody had bulls. And we had, especially not African bull elephants. A couple had Asian elephants, bull elephants. Murray Fowler was doing some work with a number of zoos where they would castrate the bull elephant, but they were all Asian elephants, and they had been fairly successful. Now with elephants, the testicles are in the abdominal cavity. They’re not descended like most other mammals.