And I was searching for a way to evolve and improve our care of, particularly the elephants, but all of our animals. I wanted to, to develop a new model for keeper training and to look at a new way to look at the animals in our care and how we’re taking care of them. To go to the next level. Challenge the keepers to go to the next level of their care of the animals. And so I started going around, and I went to all kinds of, I went to Colorado, I went to Florida. I was trying to find someone who could work with our staff with a program, and I came upon the Perelli Natural Horsemanship Program. And in that program, they worked with horses at Liberty, on the ground at Liberty.
