Senior managers. And so often I would have to be the tiebreaker. One thing I can think of is that the aquarium team had a penguin that had an eye issue, and the veterinarians wanted to grab it three times a day to treat the eye, and the penguin team wanted to grab it once a day, because they thought that that would be very detrimental to grab this poor penguin three times a day to treat this eye. And they couldn’t, they were at an impasse. They could not agree. And so in that particular instance, I sided with the curator. I thought the wellbeing of the overall animal was more important than stressing it by grabbing it, and picking it up, and holding it for eyedrops to be put in the eye three times a day. There were other times that I would agree with the veterinarians on their call.
