And so I was learning all about design and strategic planning. We went through two strategic plans while I was there. So strategic planning, and design, and construction, and all of those aspects. And I was blessed that Satch Krantz let me be involved in all of the aspects of the zoo. His senior management team there was really involved in almost everything, so it wasn’t like we couldn’t afford strategic planners off Here that that’s all they did, which zoos now can do. Zoos have their own design teams now. But back then, the senior management team worked to design the exhibits, and worked to make sure that the animal spaces were appropriate, the visitor spaces were appropriate. And so it was really fun to do that.