And so it’s just dealing with him was quite painful. But there was obviously a good side to him, and I really found that out when I used to travel with him. Like one day, he said, “Okay, come, we’re going to visit Zoo Negara.” Zoo Negara is the zoo in Kuala Lumpur in Malaysia. I said, “Okay, sure.” And he said, “We’re going on Friday, We’ll catch the Friday. We’ll stay the night in Kuala Lumpur. We’ll visit the zoo during the day, and then we’ll watch the football in the evening.” Actually, the reason he wanted to go there is watch the football. We’ll, Singapore versus Selangor, which is like… And we were in the stadium.
