Yeah, 1980, yeah, yeah. And so I said, okay. And for some reason, and I think it was because of my youth, because I think I was 27, 28, yeah. And because I had actually worked with Dr. Ong, the chairman for six years in various positions, I could get on with him. I think I knew how to manage him and what buttons to press and what buttons not to press and so we just got on. We’re gonna talk about that in a minute.
