They had some animal husbandry training, and then a local vet used to come in and look at the sick animals. So I met them, said, “Guys, I’m gonna be your new boss.” And they all looked at me and said, “Hmm.” So I spent one day a week in the field with them, working with them in the sections and started to learn the ropes. And yeah, gradually gained their respect. And I think we were all very young. We were all the same age, basically. I mean, I joined when I was 21, they were all about 21. Besides those veterinary technicians who were the four supervisors, there were four divisions in the zoo, one of them left, and then we created three divisions. The rest of the keepers were basically laborers.