And so we actually had like, I don’t know, I can’t remember now, but I mean at least 15 young orangutans all at once. So they were handled, they were managed, they were kept as a social group. And that’s why we were able to keep a quite a big social colony together of 10 females, three or four males. Of course, as the males got older and more aggressive to each other, they rotate the males. And so Ah Meng was part of this, and Susie was part of this group. And so Susie was the one who was the handpicked one, actually the nicest-looking. And so she would do stuff like she do promotional stuff, come out if a dignitary was coming, come and meet the orangutan, she could hold it. She could sit next to her and take pictures.
