Another person who imported me, quote unquote, imported me, a reptile dealer, whose name was Ray Folsom. And on the west coast in California. And I was a house guest, lived in his guest room for a few months. It was the summer of 1969. July 2nd, that’s the day I arrived at the LA International. But you can’t really stay there on a tourist visa. So Ray Folsom, Marvin Jones, and here comes Gary Clarke, who I met at the AAZPA conference, and he invited me. So I took a chance on a tourist visa.