Overall view of zoos, what zoos can be done, should be done. Dr. Koga back in Tokyo made a big influence. Individually, I met very interesting people, such as Dr. Patricia O’Connor. The first female zoo veterinarian in the country back in Staten Island. Learned a lot. Of how, with limited resources, she left behind large projects done, such as the literature of zoo animals from several different languages across the world into one book. On grant, she did that. And she was instrumental in the regional primate research center.