Somewhere I heard in a big zoo that curators do have a job. If the public wants to bother to come to the zoo, yeah, they are welcome. That attitude has to have a 180 degree turnaround, that zoos are for the general public, and you are there as an interpreter of wild animals. They are not the extension of your household pets. They’re out there in huge number. They have their own requirements. Now we are taking away their resources, destroying their habitats, and that has to be looked at more seriously, without the public knowing roads are being built. Tropical rainforests are burnt down to have more cattle to feed us.