I think we are repeating ourselves, but anyway. Without, let’s give an example of propagation of great apes in captivity. It is common to hear about a gorilla birth in a zoo, no longer it makes a front page story. Maybe front page, a little article at the bottom of the front page. Current generation may not be aware that gorillas came into zoos by volunteering to live in the zoo. Used to be that great apes were captured in a very crude, wasteful way. They would go out. Shoot the adult.