Nine o’clock, with jacket and tie, he would say good morning, and good morning. And by that time, he had the entire zoo in his hand. So they had animal meetings, at that time, the zoo had emperor penguins. They had a very skilled zookeeper who took care of them. Dr. Koga knew the degrade, the level of molting of each individual emperor penguin. He knew more than the keeper who took care of them, so that’s a role model. So that’s one style of making the round of the zoo. So different from someone in Berlin, for instance.