We got this guy that’s running amuck, and, you know, we’re trying to put the zoo back on financial footing, and we don’t know what to do.” And he said, “I got an idea for you.” He said, “You need to call this guy out in San Diego named Charlie Schroeder, Dr. Charles Schroeder. He just retired as the director of the San Diego Zoo. World famous, highly respected zoo director. You need to hire him to be your, to consult with you.” And they did, they did. And they reached an agreement where he came to Columbia with his wife for about six weeks. And in those six weeks, I learned more about being a zoo director than I’ve ever learned in my life. It was an amazing experience. So you remember, from January of ’73 until April of ’76, I was supervisor of the hospital, mammal curator, general curator, and now I’m the acting director (laughs) with not a clue what I was doing.
