It was a terrible, terrible time. And so, like I said, February, March, the rumors were just flying rampant that he was not gonna make it, and sure enough, I got a call one day. Actually I got a call at home at night from the gentleman who was the chairman of the commission. And he said that the commission for the first time in its existence was gonna meet with some of its employees. And we met at a restaurant, and there were five of us who had individual meetings over the course of a week with the commission. And they were asking us about Mehrtens and what was going on at the zoo and his management style and all. I mean, the handwriting was on the wall. And on a Monday in April, they had a meeting and said they wanted, told him he was done and that they wanted his resignation.
