There was just one other curator. There was a curator of birds. Actually, Dennis Decoursey who worked here at Brookfield after he left Riverbanks. And there again is an interesting look into Mehrtens’ personality. He had a strange habit of meeting people at AAZPA meetings, either regionals or national meetings, usually casual, and offered them a job on the spot. And Dennis Decoursey, a great guy, had been a bird, was a bird keeper at the Woodland Park Zoo in Seattle, and Mehrtens met him in the bar at a conference and said, “I want you to be my bird curator.” And so Dennis was the bird curator. I was the mammal curator. And I was mammal curator for only a few months, and then I was a general curator.