Well, for one thing, the universe, the zoo universe, zoo and aquarium universe in my first go around was small. Everybody knew everybody. Most of us as directors shared similar backgrounds. We were all animal people. By the time I served a second term, we had a quite a few non-traditional zoo directors, some who were directors of substantial organizations who were completely uninvolved in the AZA, whereas that would have been unheard of, you know, 30 years ago. You had to be involved. Some saw it as something that the staff does. My job as the director is to raise money.