You know, there’s an opening over here. You know, why don’t you?” And he always gave me the same answer. He said, “I wouldn’t do what you do for anything in the world.” So it’s just the profession in that regard has changed so much. We want, as the universal we, we want a curator who knows everything there is to know about all these kinds of animals and what they eat and how to manage them. But we want them to have a PhD, you know, and those things are not always mutually beneficial. It’s a tough one. It’s a tough question, But I think AZA has a role to play in that and, you know, and I think they have tried that maybe with management school, but there needs to be a way to get these really good keepers to move up to become really good curators. And I think we also have to find a way to integrate the husbandry and the zoo culture philosophy with the PhDs.
