I did it every day till the day I retired. The day I retired, I went on rounds. And for me, unlike our, some of our German colleagues who when they go on rounds, they go on rounds. They go on all the backups. I went on the public side. I did it every day. And I thought and I still think to this day it was the most important thing that I did because I saw things that nobody else saw. And that frustrated me because I tried to train my staff.