Now during your time, your extended time of 43 years at the zoo at the helm, what was your relationship to animal rights groups and humane society groups over the years, and develop a philosophy about dealing with them and… I can summarize that in two words. The South. (laughs) For most of my career, there was virtually no animal rights movement in South Carolina. Anybody who, any individual or any organization who proposed any kind of animal rights, and we’re making a distinction now between welfare and rights, but who made any kind of, be it the zoo, be it farming, be it pets, be it what, they were either completely ignored or just brushed off to the side. It was a non-issue. I never let my guard down. I never took that for granted. I tried to form relationships.
