And at some point along that way, again, we’re still in the maybe 1980-’81-’82, I’m not sure, every year and still to this day, the AZBA, A, (laughs) AAZPA, now AZA, the incoming chair puts out a call for service if you would like to volunteer. And I sent a letter and said, “I’d like to volunteer. I’ll do whatever,” and I was appointed to the membership committee. That had a very major impact on me and my future in the profession because at the time, the professional fellow designation was taken very seriously. And becoming a professional fellow was not handed out readily. You had to have experience. You had to have all this background. And George Felton, who at the time was the director of the Baton Rouge Zoo, was the chairman of the membership committee, and he kind of put me in charge of the professional fellow classification.
