And he had a little, took a piece of 8 by 10 paper, and he put it on landscape and he wrote little grids on it, and he had the names of the people who applied in there, experience and all. He had this little chart. And I stayed out of it. You know, I just assumed he was gonna hire somebody good. And they… He, there was no they. He brought two people to Columbia. One was the director of a large zoo in the Midwest, and the other was a general curator of a large zoo in the west, out west.
