He was just an amazing man. So for six weeks, he set about… Well, the second day he was there, there was a small article in the paper, and it was about Mehrtens, and he had spoken to the Humane Society in Columbia the day before and said horrible things about the zoo and horrible things about me. And Dr. Schroeder said to me, he said, “Do you have his phone number?” And I said, there are no cell phones obviously, and I said, “Well, I got his home phone number.” He said, “Call him.” (laughs) So I called, Mehrtens answered the phone. Now this is the only time I’ve talked to him since that day sitting on the fallen tree down in the woods. Somebody was talking and I handed the phone to Schroeder. And Schroeder says… I think he actually called him Mr. Mehrtens.
