Zoo something out of the Midwest. Anyway, he wasn’t really employed by them, but when he was hired by the Zoo Commission, he was in discussions with them about becoming a consultant. Anyway, so I get a call that they’ve hired this man. I knew who he was, and I mean, I was, I’m sure I was at some conferences where he attended and was not anywhere close to going up to him ’cause I was so intimidated, even though he was over a foot shorter than me. (laughs) So on the given day, and I don’t remember what day it was, but the commission chairman picked him up at the airport and drove him to the zoo. And I remember vividly standing just inside the entrance when the commission chairman, a gentleman by the name of Don Barton, walks in with Dr. Charles Schroeder. And I looked down ’cause his top of his head came up about here on me. And we exchanged pleasantries, the three of us, and then the chairman left. So here I’m standing with Charles Schroeder.
