Well I think, see he didn’t know me when Brad House was there. Brad was the spokesman for the mammal department and I only had a bachelors degree. One of the requirements is supposed to be more than a bachelors degree but that was all I had. I guess my previous zoo experience replaced that need for more degrees and he did know me and I was not aggressive and Brad was in charge and Brad spoke for the mammal department. That was the way it was, that was the way it was gonna be. He really didn’t know me until Brad was leaving. And I just hadn’t had much contact with him. And then (indistinct) spokesman for the mammal department before he left, at least temporarily.
