Well there really wasn’t any program it was just whatever the curator wanted you to do. There were two of us in the mammal department and one in the bird department Don Briggs was in the Bird department with Joe Bell who was the curator of birds then. I worked with the other intern in mammals we worked with Brad House who was the curator of mammals at the time. Brad gave us projects and pretty much left us alone. I know I wasn’t there very long I was spending every day down in the basement of the administration building going through the stacks of journals on mammalogy, similar journals looking for references to keeping bats in captivity, feeding bats, bat behavior and so on. We were going to have bats in the world of darkness and I dived down there in the dungeon. Feeling pretty sorry for myself then. Spent so much time doing that.