His name was Ron Ruther. Why don’t you write to him. So I wrote Ron Ruther a letter saying that I was looking for a curator job and he very nicely said why don’t you come and see me. So I went up to sanfrancisco. (indistinct) Obviously she was teaching school there and I went to school there. Anyway I went to sanfrancisco and Ron said, “If I have a place for a curator, money for a curator right now I would hire you.” But he said I don’t have any money yet. I’m only actually a director but I can offer you a keeper job. When a curator position becomes available, you’ll be here. Or else ill help you find a curator job in some other zoo.