1966, I was out of college and we used to have field trips over Fresno zoo. I had a professor who knew I was looking for a zoo job. He loved zoos and he actually applied for the job that Bill Conway got when Bill applied for a curator job at the bronx. And he applied too and didn’t get it. So he was pushing me to get a zoo job and he arranged for me to go meet with Paul Chaffy at the Fresno. He was very nice, really nice man. He said no he didn’t have anything anywhere at that time and had no idea when he would and he said that there was a new director going in to sanfran cisco. He’s there now and he’s working but he’s not officially the director.
