I joined the HDA before, wasn’t the HDA, national parks and recreation. Before I was out of college. I was writing this series about jobs and people were very helpful to me. Oklahoma city didn’t offer me keepers job. They were paying $3500 dollars a year, I was making more than that at the grocery store bagging groceries. Part time while I was in school and I made more money than the keepers. I couldn’t move to Oklahoma city. But I just always tried to be nice with young people to feel what their interests are.