We were working with Sumatra Rhino people over there and it was a man the head of wildlife for Malaysia who was responsible for (indistinct) ultimately. Borneo, a malayan borneo. He was very kind of cool and stand offish in the beginning but after we got to know each other a little, he and I had very good relationship. Just thinking of him, I was going to write him a letter. We hadn’t written in a couple of years and I hope he’s all right and doing well. Once we had a good relationship going, it was fine. We would work together and talk about whatever. Well same thing happened in Georgia, (indistinct).