I remember taking George Shaller, great biologist. Take him to see our snow leopard exhibit after we put the snow leopards on display, he was in town, I don’t know where he was working, probably working in china. He came down and took him to see the snow leopards. Then we used tension wire in the front of the exhibit. That hadn’t been done before with snow leopards. That was working fine. Some of them, unusual cats and George said, “What’s this wire in the front here for?” And I said, “To keep then snow leopards inside.” He said, “They’re not gonna come out of there. Why would they come out of that space to come out here, you don’t need that wire there.” He was serious.