When I was a little boy my father took me to the circus. I was about seven. We went to see (indistinct) circus in Boston and Ill never forget seeing Gargantua, it was glass box I was in or it was a cage it wasn’t a glass box. It was pretty scary but I never forgot him. When we had gorillas and they were old enough to breed some of them were not breeding at all and then some of them were not very successful parenting. We rebuilt a state of the art ape house opened in 1950. We did some modern home big tiled bathrooms for the gorillas. During that time we had the gorillas and we had chimp and we had orangutans in the building.
