It developed topsy turvy, like so many zoos, small municipal zoos. But here’s the funny thing. When I started in 1963 as zoo director, I wanted the zoo, not just community-wise, locally, we needed to so many things, we’ve talked about that, but I wanted the zoo to become part of the zoo world. We were just kind of a adjunct of the zoo. I wanted to be part of the zoo world. I wanted, not just me going, I wanted the staff to go to conferences. Now we started the regional concept, which was the first one we called the Central Zoo Workshop. And it was, Tulsa came up and St. Louis came over, Omaha came down, it was just that.