And Mrs. Cully would type it out. They had one daughter, Kathy and it was not a question of me being a adopted son type thing. He wasn’t that kind of individual. But I think it was a question of him recognizing somebody who did wanna make a career out of this And like when the International Zoo Yearbook first came out, well, he gave me the brochure. And I got one and one of those originals. And he just, he did what little he could. There wasn’t a lot because the zoo was run by a park board, by Kansas City Park Board. But anything he could do, he would encourage me.