And the old timers like me, I guess, we’re so animal oriented, that’s what we think of. It’s hard for me to say if they’re doing what shouldn’t be done or not, ’cause I can’t really assess that. I would say this. I would say that things have changed and they responded to those changes. They have a national presence in Bethesda, Maryland and Washington now. They’re playing a bigger role in that regard. They got national corporate sponsorships, they’re doing a lot of things that probably should be done. And maybe it’s not AZA’s fault, but I think we’ve lost a lot of the comradery of zoos and zoo professionals.