Well, yes, I have met some presidents. I hadn’t thought about that. (chuckles) In fact, when I met Jimmy Carter, when they formed the National Museum Services Board, and decided fortunately to include zoos and aquariums as part of that, and they had a 15-member national board, well, the zoo, AAZPA at the time, I’m not sure how it came about, but I was asked to be the board representative for zoos and aquariums. So I was the first zoo and aquarium guy on the National Museum Services Board in 1977. And the FBI did the big background check and all my high school buddies called and said, “What’s going on?” And, (laughs) God, that was something. And I guess it was okay. And so when I went to the White House to have a reception with President and Mrs. Carter, I wore my Zoo Power button, (mic thuds) and gosh, darn it, he never made a comment about it or said a word. I was so disappointed. (Gary laughs) And officially met him and shook his hand.
