Let’s enter one of those. I said, “Wait a minute. If you do that, people are saying we’re making fun of modern art, or we’re comparing apes with people. I mean, that’s not a good idea.” Oh, no, we’ll say that he’s an orang. So they put his name down as D period, D for Djakarta, James, his middle name, Orang, his last name. They entered it, the judges did not catch on. They evaluated it as a piece of art and it won first place, statewide art contest. So that became world news.
