Well, I’d take the kids to ranches and things like that. We’d castrate horses and cows and all that stuff. Then I’d take them to Oakland Zoo and meet the two directors there and things like that in Oakland. So if there was no animals, then I made sure there we had animals somewhere. We’d start with animals wherever we went because kids today, hell, I get 14 year old kids scared of a chicken and say, “Oh, your turkeys are out.” And it’s not turkeys, just guinea fouls, there’s a lot of difference.
