No. Knocked the hell out of him. Big dummy. So we got this female gorilla in and she went by Colossus and just knocked the snot out of him. They lived together, but they never bred. But when Edmond Russ at Cincinnati zoo, he’s a collector, he really is a collector, whatever he collects, and Diana told me this, he said, he collects that gorilla, you’ll never get it back, he’s a collector, you’ll never get him back. We sent him out there on a breeding loan. Breeding loan, she said, “You’ll never get him back, he’s a collector.” And our entire community loved that gorilla and Ellie.
