Calves, steers, they were steers after we did it. I’d grab a whole one by the tail to hang in there. Bob Joles, he was the biggest bootlegger in all of East Tennessee, a very nice guy, but very wealthy, made all the Moonshine. My family made Moonshine. I remember grabbing onto a steer and I was hanging onto the tail and the thing went to the fence and dragged me through the fence. Bob Giles us up there, “Hang in there, Dubb, hang in there, Dubb.” I got drove these briars and barbed wire and everything else.