Well, during that time, that was in 2001. And during that and then my mom passed away in 2002 if I recall. And so, that was behind me. And so, I had somebody contact me about doing some consulting work at two or three different zoos and I did that. Then I had somebody call and ask me if I wanted to, the zoo had just privatized and if I want to come and just take over the animal collection, the education thing and while they did their reorganization, I said, “Sure.” So, I actually went to Kansas City and bought a townhouse ’cause I was going back and forth. And I did that actually for about three years. During that time, what happened was the typical thing as I mentioned earlier about here’s this privatization, the zoo director lasts about a year. The news zoo director comes in and then the person who is involved in the society is gone.