Once in a while I would take time to do that. When I really got uptight, I’d go over to the greenhouse and the horticulture crew would put me to work planting seeds. That was good therapy because nobody ever came looking for me there. (laughter) And so, I did that. That was about trying to keep in touch was very difficult. You can’t keep your finger on the pulse all the time, it’s just not possible when you have other administrative duties. You mentioned when you’d walk around, you’d look at trash cans and other things.
