We knew their families. We knew their kids. We’d visited their homes. They’d been in our homes. They were business colleagues and they were friends. This group today doesn’t know any of ’em. They on the whole, they don’t. They don’t have any contacts with ’em and as a result, I stood up and I said, “You guys are talking about the fact that you don’t have sources for these species that we used to always get from this private sector.
