And as it went on, it became very apparent to me that there were a lot of mammal people in the zoo business but there wasn’t many people were involved with birds. Now, I’d had the academic training in birds. I had no practical training. I was a bird watcher. I had knowledge of ornithology. I was very interested in it. And I remember the director came to me one day and said, “We have a shipment of birds coming in. Would you like to take care of ’em?” It was an opportunity, golden opportunity.