And the more I looked at it, the more attractive it got and I’d been in St. Louis for 11 years. And I was at a point in my life and I was at an age in my life where you have to say, “Well okay, now what do you wanna do?” “Do you wanna stay doing what you’re doing or do you want to be that big frog in that big pond?” So, I did an interview, went to the interviews were held during a spring conference in Oklahoma City regional. And they apparently went well. I was asked back maybe in March or April, maybe in April, this time to bring my wife for the another interview and then I was offered the position and I started there on May 15th, 1985. It was a more formal process than you were used to in your other positions. Certainly it was a more formal process than St. Louis was. Yeah and in Philadelphia as well. Yes, it was a more formal process.
