Yes, I did. There was a director named Dick Schultz who came in, actually after Bob Briggs. Dick Schultz had been a corporate finance director for a large chemical company in St. Louis. So, he was basically retired. And then he came in and his first position was as financial director of the zoo to get all that straightened out. And then he became director after Briggs left. He taught me a lot about financial management in terms of the way it applied to the zoos. I used to discuss budgets with him all the time.
