He actually, the most violent evidence we have of his behavior is when, in Honolulu City Hall, he got a fist fight on the grounds of City Hall with the then mayor, and they had to be separated. They physically were attacking each other. He was that volatile and explosive a person. So finally he lost his… he was no longer elected to public office. And both the loss of his interest, his focus, his dedication to the zoo, which shriveled when he left, plus tough economic times really were devastating. And what occurred, it’s almost unbelievable that the elephant did as well as it did. Because as money got tighter and tighter, the jobs were scarcer and scarcer, and the people taking care of the zoo, from everything we can gather, there was no civil service.
