So I mustered through a human person-to-person contact developed kind of a base core group. We didn’t ever organize ourselves as a zoo society or zoo supporters or anything. We just set up, they were friends of friends, that we’d meet for dinner or picnics on the beach. And I deliberately selected, went ahead with her idea, with Ms. Benchley suggestions of getting like-minded people that were interested in this building, rebuilding the zoo in Honolulu. And one of the most important of those was the head of the Zoology Department at U of H. He was all for it, a guy named Harvey Fisher. And then, so we did some letter writing campaigns, and simultaneously with my interest in rebuilding the zoo, getting out of the Navy, and then in a short time, graduating from University of Hawaii, all of these things were happening simultaneously. There was a small group of animals at a local dairy.