And there was almost no inspection at both Guam, before the snakes left, and here when the planes arrived. So the snakes were getting aboard. I think we documented nine brown tree snakes that arrived in Hawaii. Half of those, well five, as I recall, were alive when they arrived, found slithering on the airport, near the airplanes. So we realized that they were not covered by any existing federal or state inspection programs because they were a new ball of wax, so to speak, they weren’t insects. So the existing inspection as established, before the snake, was way too limited. So my group, based on the concern factor and learning that the way things got done in Hawaii, as you set up an organization, I gathered together, we made a quick ad hoc group called The Brown Tree Snake Control Group with a bunch of, the reptile man, Sean McEwen at the Honolulu Zoo, with the reptile professor at San Diego State, and a couple of more, John Worler down in, who then was the director of the zoo in Houston. We set up this small group, and the key person was my former boss at the Land of Natural Resources, which is a umbrella agency for a fishing game in Hawaii.
